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Z-Offset can be an issue if it's set to the wrong thing. I've seen so many Misleading YouTube videos on this subject I decided to make a chart to explain. I hope it helps some people who don't have auto level 3DPrts.

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Has this been an issue for others or am I just the last to find out I've had my Z offset on a random number. Please note the shim-height is the thickness of the paper or anything you wish to use when bed leveling.

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    Please clarify your specific problem or provide additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it's hard to tell exactly what you're asking. – Community Feb 27 '24 at 15:05
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    Hi hotwire and welcome to SE.3DPrinting..! Unfortunately, it seems like your (admittedly rather interesting) chart should be posted as an answer, to a question that doesn't really seem to have been asked (yet). Please [edit] and re-format your post as a question, and then post the chart as an answer (along with an explanation). You are allowed to answer your own question, if you wish to add to the knowledge base. Otherwise, your post might be better suited to a blog, or forum, rather than trying to make it fit a Q&A site. Also, please take the [tour] and see [ask]. Thanks :-) – Greenonline Feb 27 '24 at 17:30
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    This is how purists level their bed. This is actually not how you should be doing this. But, as said before, this isn't a question, this is a forum post, which could be the start of a discussion. Z offset is not a random number, it is the build-in value in the firmware, or the value you last set. Basically, you level with a shim (piece of paper) to later subtract the shim height, this implies you don't have any extra space which you need as all slicers by default overextrude the first layer. This question should be rewritten or closed, it does not adhere to the SE guidelines. – 0scar Feb 27 '24 at 18:34
  • I've drawn similar images for setups with a leveling sensor, see e.g. [here](https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/a/16605/). For such sensors, the probe offset also has to be taken into account. – 0scar Feb 27 '24 at 19:49
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    We do appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge, but as the question is arranged currently, it is incorrectly formatted for the SE Q&A formatting. Would you mind help from us to rephrase the question and create a wiki answer so that your question can be kept? A question phrased "How do you visualize the manually bed levelling?" or "What distances or offsets are in play to properly level the bed?" – 0scar Feb 27 '24 at 22:09
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    FWIW, a *wiki answer*, is the same as a normal answer, except that the tiny "Community wiki" checkbox is checked, when submitting the answer. So, for example, if I or 0scar, fixed up your post for you to fit the Q&A format, then we would remove the image from your post and post it as a community wiki answer and then we'd need to minor edit your question, as 0scar suggested. However, if *you*, yourself, post the answer (and make the edits), then you don't really need to check the wiki checkbox. It would be better if you made these changes and it would save us some work :-). – Greenonline Feb 28 '24 at 19:26
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    Otherwise, as it stands, unfortunately, your question will need to be closed (for the reasons stated), and that would be a shame to lose your diagram. So we really don't want to have to do that. I hope all that makes sense.. Thanks. – Greenonline Feb 28 '24 at 19:27
  • We closed this question because it does not adhere to the SE Q&A concept and various attemps to communicate through the comments to edit the question so that it can be saved for future reference show that the question is abandoned. – 0scar Feb 29 '24 at 12:14

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